Monday, June 23, 2014

52 Ancestor's Challenge - Robert P. Miles - Georgia to Alabama - Week 25

Signature of Robert P. Miles, found in probate
paperwork for Absalom Jackson's estate (his father-in-law).
Copy found in probate file, in
Chambers County Estates Box 16, Folder 43
It may be hard to read, but this is the signature of my 4th great grandfather, Robert P. Miles.  His signature was found on some probate papers in the estate of his father-in-law, Absalom Jackson.  The paper it is from is very hard to read, but I believe it has something to do with the sale of some property that Absalom owned.  The page is dated in the year 1840, and has the signatures, or marks, of each of his unwed daughters and the husbands of his married daughters.

Robert P. Miles was born around 1799, probably in Georgia.  I speculate he was born somewhere around Hancock County, GA.  His father is thought to be John Miles and was on the tax rolls of Hancock County, GA from 1895-1805.  There is a book that discusses John Miles called Your Inheritance, Vol. II, by Robbie Lee Gillis Ross, Matthews, NC, Delmar Print Co., 1972 (pages 231-236).  In the book it states John Miles was a Commissioner from Montpelier, and was a Justice of the Peace for Baldwin County, GA.  John's wife, and Robert's mother, is said to be Margaret (Peggy) Warren. 

According to this same book, Robert P. Miles had one draw in the Third Lottery Act of 1820, set up by the Georgia Legislature.  This can also be seen in the Historical Collections of the Georgia Chapters, Daughters of the American Revolution, Volume IV, Back Matter on  Ancestry.com if you have a subscription.  If you don't have a subscription, a copy of the index is found at USGenWeb.  His name can be seen in Ellis' District.

Robert is next found in the will of his father, John.  John left his son a slave named Daniel, a feather bed, and furniture.  I find the idea of having another human being as part your property reprehensible, but this was common in the south at this time.  It is sad what these people had to endure, and my heart goes out to them.

A large part of John's estate was left to his wife, Peggy.  When she died in 1826, it was divided to their children.  At her death, the estate had 18 additional slaves.  These slaves were divided up into Lots of 2 each.  Each heir of the estate drew a lot.  Robert drew lot number 7, which meant he was given 2 slaves by the names Sucky and Selilia, which were appraised at $450 together.  You can find these papers on Familysearch.org: Georgia Probate Records, 1742-1990, Baldwin County, Returns 1813-1831, page 139 in the book, but page 493 of 664 of the digital copies.

I'm unsure where Robert was living in 1830, but by 1833 he is shown marrying Palmira Jackson in Meriwether County, GA.  Palmira Jackson was the daughter of Absalom Jackson, who was living in Meriwether County, Ga when the 1830 census was taken.

Marriage record of Robert P. Miles and Palmira Jackson May 16, 1833, Meriwether Co., GA
Image found on Familysearch.org, "Georgia, County Marriages, 1785-1950"
Robert and Palmira had 9 children that we know of.  They are as follows:
  • Elizabeth b.1834, d.after 1891 - married John H.M. Vines
  • Lucinda b. 1835, d.1908 - married William M. Beckett
  • Margaret (Maggie) b.1839, d. 1917 - married Holland Middleton Bell
  • Matilda Ann b.1840, d. 1857 - married William Green Stowe
  • Absalom Jackson b.1841, d.1862 - never married
  • John W. b.1841, d.1918 - married Victoria P. West
  • Alevia b.1844, d.unknown - don't believe she ever married, can't find her after 1880 though
  • Robert Paul b.1847, d.1930 - Married Monica Bell (sister of Holland M. Bell)
  • William H. b.1849, d.1918 - never married
 In 1840, there is a R. Miles living in Huey's District, No. 3, Harris County, GA, according to the 1840 Federal Census.  In the household it shows the following members:
1 male age 20-29; 2 females under the age of 5; 2 females age 5-9; 1 female age 30-39; 1 male slave under the age of 10; and 1 female slave age 10-23
We can assume the  male and older female are Robert and Palmira, however, the age of Robert would be incorrect.  The two females under the age of 5 could be Matilda Ann and Margaret, while the two other females could have been Elizabeth and Lucinda.  It's unknown whether the older female slave could have been Sucky or Selilia.  The male slave under the age of 10 would have been too young to have been Daniel, so I'm not sure what his name was.

In 1843, Robert Miles can be found in Harris County, in the Georgia, Property Tax Digests, 1793-1892, found on Ancestry.com.  He is located in the Dagnol District.  I can't quite make out what each item is they listed, but I can see he still had 2 slaves in his household.

The 1850 Federal Census has been frustrating for me.  I have looked and looked for this family in this census, but cannot find them anywhere.  It's quite possible they were still in Harris County, GA, but on May 1, 1849, there was a land grant recorded for a Robert Miles of Tallapoosa County, Alabama.  This can be found on Ancestry.com as well in the U.S. General Land Office Records, 1796-1907. The following piece of land is shown in the grant:
"The North East quarter of the North West quarter of Section Twenty Eight in Township Twenty Three of Range Twenty Four, East, in the District of Lands Subject to Sale at Montgomery Alabama containing forty Acres and eight and a half hundredths of an Acre."
We also know that his oldest daughter, Elizabeth Miles (my 3rd great grandmother), was married in Tallapoosa County, AL on February 13, 1849, to John H.M. Vines.  You can see the marriage details here on Familysearch.org.  It is my assumption, that the family had moved to Tallapoosa County, AL by this time.

We can't find the family in the 1850 census, but Alabama had a state census in 1855.  On Ancestry.com in the Alabama State Census, 1820-1866 records, we see a Robert Miles living in Beat 13.  In the household, it shows the following:
4 males under 21; 1 male over 21; 4 females under 21; 1 female over 21; and 2 slaves.
The families time was short in Tallapoosa County.  By 1860, the family can be found in Fayette County, Alabama.  The 1860 Federal Census shows the family living in East District, Fayette Co., AL.  The surname is spelled Myles and it shows Robert as age 60, occupation a farmer, value of real estate as $2,000, value of personal estate of $1,500, and he was born in Georgia.  The people living in his household are as follows: Palmira, Margaret, John, Absalom, Aleva, Robert, William, Green Stoe, Wm. C. Manases, Sarah A. Manases, Davens J. Manases, James H. Manases, and Dorphus Manases.  I don't think the Manases family was related to the Miles, but "Green Stoe" is actually William Green Stowe, Robert's widowed son-in-law.  He was married to Matilda Ann Miles on September 9, 1856, and she died December 27, 1857 in Tallapoosa County.  She probably died in childbirth, and is buried with their son Robert A. Stowe.

We can also see Robert in the 1860 U.S. Federal Census - Slave Schedule on Ancestry.com.  He is shown having 2 slaves in his household and one slave house.  One is listed as a female age 30, while the other is listed as a male.  The age of the male is hard to read.  The person who indexed this typed in 29 years, but I think it looks more like 21 years.  Either way, there is a mark next to the male, which means he was a "fugitive of the state."  What that might mean, I'm not sure.  Did he run away?  Attempt to get his freedom?  The ages show they could be the same two that were living in the household in 1840 as well.

Robert Miles can also be found in the Selected U.S. Federal Census Non-Population Schedule for the year 1860.  He is shown with the following for his farm:
  • Acres of land improved: 135, unimproved: 425
  • Cash value of farm: $200
  • Value of Farming Implements and Machinery: $20
  • Livestock on June 1, 1860
    • Horses: 4
    • Milch Cows: 4
    • Working Oxen: 2
    • Other Cattle: 3
    • Swine: 40
    • Value of Livestock: $775
  • Bushels of Wheat: 100
  • Bushels of Rye: 20
  • Bushels of Indian Corn: 1,000
  • Ginned Cotton Bales of 400 lbs each: 18
The Civil War then came and brought a lot of changes to the Miles family.  At least three of Robert and Palmira's sons, and their son-in-law, went off to war.  Only two returned.  Their son Absalom Jackson Miles died of sickness near Richmond, VA, and their daughter, Elizabeth's, husband John H.M. Vines died of sickness in Mississippi.  Their son John Miles was injured, but made it back home.

The 1866 Alabama State Census found on Ancestry.com shows the family living in Fayette County still.  There is a total of 14 people living in the household.  This would be Robert, Palmira, John, Alevia, Robert Jr., William, and their widowed daughter Elizabeth Miles Vines along with Elizabeth's 7 children: Mary Ann, Nancy Elizabeth, Lucinda, Susan, Matilda, Robert Javis, and George W.  This census also contains an area to mark whether anyone in the household was killed in the war, died of sickness, or disabled.  In Robert's household they have marked 2 for died of sickness and 1 for disabled.  The 2 that died were Absalom and John H.M. Vines, while the disabled soldier, I believe was John.

In 1870, we see Robert, age 71 years now.  He is still living in Fayette County, according to the 1870 Federal Census, he is in Township 17.  In his household were his wife, Palmira, and two of their children, Alevia and William.  Next to them on the census is their daughter Elizabeth with 5 of her children.  Her oldest daughter Mary Ann Melvina Vines was married by this time and living in Tallapoosa with her husband, Jonathan Beckett.  Elizabeth's daughter, Nancy Elizabeth was living with Mary Ann and her family too.

Another Selected U.S. Federal Census Non-Population Schedule was done in 1870 as well, and can be found on Ancestry.com.  There is an R.P. Miles listed on it with the following:
  • Acres of land improved: 100, unimproved: 564
  • Cash value of farm: $200
  • Value of Farming Implements and Machinery: $10
  • Livestock on June 1, 1870
    • Horses: 2
    • Milch Cows: 5
    • Working Oxen: 2
    • Other Cattle: 10
    • Swine: 19
    • Value of Livestock: $467
  • Bushels of Indian Corn: 400
  • Bushels of Oats: 100
It's similar to what he had for the 1860 census.  Not too much had changed.  Robert didn't own a large plantation, so the war may not have affected his business as it did some people.

August 30, 1873, Robert passed away.  He is buried in the Old Section of the Fayette City Cemetery.  His wife Palmira and their grandson, Robert Calvin Miles, are buried next to him.  I've seen on record that there is a CSA soldier buried next to them, but there isn't a stone that we have found for him.  Not sure if this CSA soldier could be their son, Absalom Jackson Miles or not.  My mom and her husband have taken a couple of trips to the Fayette City Cemetery and have taken photos of the gravestones.  Interesting find, behind the old gravestones that are deteriorating from age, are two small white stones with just their initials on them.  They must have been added afterwards, but not entirely sure. Robert's was found inside the cement curb that surrounded one Bell family stones. Palmira's was found lying on the grass just behind the Bell stone.  I need to contact the people in charge of this section of the cemetery to see why this is.

Gravestones of Robert P. Miles, Palmira Jackson Miles, and Robert Calvin Miles

Second, smaller, stone with Robert's initials found in Bell plot

Photo of "RPM" stone lying inside Bell plot (on the left).  Palmira's second stone is lying in front.
Robert died intestate, and the probate of his estate was handled by his son-in-law, Holland Middleton Bell, who would eventually work as probate judge for the county. Copies of his probate paperwork can be found in the Fayette County, AL Probate Court Minutes: Vol.2, Pages 285-287, 783-784, 798-799; Vol. 3, Pages 24, 315, 342-343, 352-354; Vol. 4, Pages 43-44; and Fayette County, AL Probate Court Records, Vol. 2, Pages 401-408.

If you have any questions, or concerns, about any of the information listed above, please leave a comment. I'd be happy to provide any additional information. Thanks for reading!!

Tuesday, June 17, 2014

52 Ancestor's Challenge - Absalom Jackson - Chambers County, Alabama -Week 24


Will of Absalom Jackson dated August 29, 1838 in Chambers Co., AL
Copy found in probate file, in Chambers County Estates Box 16, Folder 43
Absalom Jackson was my 5th great grandfather on my mother's side of the family.  For a long time I had a hunch that the name of my 4th great grandmother, Palmira Jackson Miles' father was Absalom, but couldn't be sure.  Naming practices in the south are what I relied on.  I knew her and her husband had twin boys (the oldest boys of the family), and I knew their names were Absalom and John.  We believe Palmira's husband, Robert Miles' father was John Miles of Georgia, so it was safe to assume that Palmira's father was probably named Absalom.

So who was Absalom Jackson? As far as I can tell, he was born somewhere between 1781 and 1790, in either South Carolina or Georgia (I'm leaning toward South Carolina though). There is another Absalom Jackson who lived in Georgia. He was a land surveyor and has many, many documents with his name on file. But, we can safely rule out that these are two different men. The land surveyor was quite a bit older and is the same Absalom Jackson that died in 1793 in Camden County. He was married to Phareba Webster, and is not the Absalom we are talking about today.

The first record of our Absalom, that I can find, is the 1820 Federal Census. He is living with his family in Capt. Buckhalter's District, Jones County, GA. In the household are the following:
2 males under 10; 1 male age 16-25; 1 male age 16-44; 2 females under 10; 2 females age 10-15; 2 females age 16-25; 1 female age 45 or older
We know the 2 youngest males are not Absalom's sons.  Absalom and Abigail took in two boys after their mother died.  Hideon and Richard Moore were the twin sons of Joseph Iddings (or Idens, Hideon) Moore and his wife Jane.  I've been given notes about this Moore family, and it seems there was a family bible.  In the bible it states Jane died March 4, 1817 after giving birth to twins on February 25, 1817.  In the 1820 Federal Census, we see Hideon, or Iddens Moore, living a couple households away from Absalom Jackson.  I believe Absalom and his family raised these boys, or at least had a lot to do with the raising of these boys.  Both Hideon and Richard were mentioned in Absalom's will, and Hideon named two of his children after Absalom and his wife Abigail.

I believe the other male age 16-25 was the husband of Absalom's daughter Elizabeth.  Her husband was named Thomas Jefferson Brooks.  His father is thought to be Robert Brooks, Sr., who also lives just a few households away from Absalom.  His father, Robert, is listed as living alone in 1820.

In the 1830 Federal Census, we see Absalom moved his family to Meriwether County, GA.  He is listed with the following in his household:
2 males age 10-15, 1 male age 40-50, 2 females age 10-15, 2 females age 20-30, and one female age 50-60.
Again, the 2 boys were probably Hideon and Richard Moore. 

By 1838, the family had moved their way into Alabama, settling in Chambers County.  Absalom made out his will and signed it August 29, 1838.  It can be found in volume 1, page 204.  It was entered into court on October 5, 1838.  Here is a copy of what it says:
"Know all men by these presents that I Absolom Jackson while in my proper mind without the persuasion of any person or persons whatsoever, do bequeath unto my Daughter Phebe one feather bed and furniture also do bequeath unto my daughter Abigail, one feather bed and furniture.  Also I do bequeath unto my Daughter Mary, one feather bed and furniture and I further do bequeath to my Wife Abigal Jackson two sorrel horses one four years old and the other three years old last spring also one cart and yoke of oxen, and all the balance of the cattle and hogs and also the crop that is now growing on the place whre I now live for the use of my wife Abigal and family that now lives with me and her also and to remain, and also to all the household and kitchen furniture on this place where on I now live, and to be supported by Hideans and Richard Moore so long as she, that is my wife Abigal lives or remains a widow and the two horses and yoke of oxen and cart with all the balance of the cattle and hogs or so much as remains at her death or marriage there to be sold and equally divided between all my lawful heirs and all the balance of my property to be sold according to law, with the exception of two forty acres lots of land in the Cherokee County in Georgia that is if Jefferson Brooks will go and sell them according to a previous contract between him and me and return the one half of the price to be divided between all the heirs and the balance sold and equally divided together with all the debts due to me after all of my debts are discharged.
(enter line before assigned)
Know all men by these presents that I , Absolom Jackson do here by appoint my wife Abigal Jackson and John F. Sharp as my executors and administrators.  Assigned sealed and acknowledged in the presence of us this the 29th day of August 1838." 
The will was witnessed by Thompson Reeves, Edmond Jackson, and Richard Gordon.  Absalom signed it with his mark.

The will was given to the Orphans Court and entered into record with the following statement:
"I Joseph I. Williams, Clerk of the Orphans Court of said county do hereby certify that the above is a true copy of a paper admitted to record in this office as the last will and testament of Absolom Jackson late of this county, deceased.  Given under my hand and private seal there being no seal of office yet provided this 5th day of October A.D. 1838."
So, Absalom died somewhere between August 29th and October 5th of 1838, in Chambers County, AL.  The entire probate file can be found in Chambers County Estates Box 16, Folder 43.  From his probate file, we know his children were as follows:
  • Elizabeth who married Thomas Jefferson Brooks, Sr.
  • Mathilda who married Jethro Hamblin
  • Phebe who married William Thompson
  • Epsey who married William C. Hamilton
  • Palmyra who married Robert P. Miles
  • Abigail who married William C. Stephens
  • Mary who married Royal Floyd Tucker
Phebe, Abigail, and Mary were all unmarried at the time of Absalom's death.  All of his daughters remained in Alabama, mostly around Chambers and Tallapoosa Counties.  Palmira moved with her family to Fayette County by 1860.  Abigail Jackson, Absalom's wife is shown once more in the 1840 Federal Census.  I believe her and her daughters were living with Hideon Moore.  The entry on the census reads Hideon Jackson.  In the household are one male age 20-30, one female age 10-15, one female age 15-20, 2 females age 20-30, and one female age 50-60.  If Hideon was taking care of Absalom's wife and children after his death, it is quite possible the name was mixed up.

What Jackson line is Absalom from??

This is the question I'm currently working on.  So many people are doing research on the different lines of Jacksons in the southeast.  Everyone has a different theory.  I have an assumption of my own.  I have no proof for this, so don't quote me on it, but I believe these Absaloms all come from the same line of Jacksons. 

First, I believe, the Absalom Jackson who died in Camden County, GA in 1793 was born about 1750.  He had ties to the Quakers and the Society of Friends in Wrightsboro, GA.  His father may have been Benjamin Jackson.  Benjamin Jackson also had another son named Walter.  I believe this Walter might be the father of our Absalom.  Walter also had another son named James.  James married Temperance Motley, and they had a son named Absalom born February 26, 1805 in Georgia.  This Absalom married Emma Bolling Hall and lived in Autauga County, AL.  This line of Jacksons is said to have come from Ireland in the early 1700s.

It is said that the Moore family from which Hideon and Richard came from were also related to Quakers, and the Society of Friends.

For now, these are all assumptions, and nothing is 100% acurate without any paperwork to back it up.  Like I said, DON'T QUOTE ME ON THIS!  It is all a work in progress!!

If you have any questions, or concerns, about any of the information listed above, please leave a comment. I'd be happy to provide any additional information. Thanks for reading!!

 
 
 








Monday, June 9, 2014

52 Ancestor's Challenge - Where is Grover William Locke? - Week 23

My great grandmother, Mamie Estelle Locke, had an older brother named Grover William Locke.  We know nothing about this person, and I've spent a lot of time wondering where he went. 

We do know, according to pages from the family bible, that Grover was born March 12, 1885, probably in, or near, Rosebud, White County, Arkansas.  He was the first child of Francis Marion Lock/Locke and Nancy Elizabeth Vines. 

The family moved around from what we can understand.  Francis Marion was a Minister of the Gospel and taught piano lessons.  His work must have moved them around, we can not find the family on any Federal Census between the years 1900 to 1920.  However, we do know that they were probably living in Stephenville, Erath County, Texas by 1903.  Mamie had an autograph book, and in it Grover wrote the following:

"Stephenville, Erath Co., Texas
Jan 26 1903

Miss Mamie Locke

When I am gone, and you can't tell, go to our church and ring the bell.

Your Brother,
Grover Locke"

"Jan 26 1903

Miss Mamie Locke

I hope you good luck and success through life, perhaps some day you will be some lucky wife.

Your Brother,
Grover Locke"

There was a picture in my grandmother's things.  They were things that belonged to her mother Mamie.  With those items was a picture of a young man.  We don't know for sure, but this could possibly be Grover.   


The only document for Grover that we have been successful in finding was a WWI draft card.  The copy was found on Ancestry.com, but it isn't the best quality, and hard to read.  It lists a Grover Wm. Locke, born March 12, 1885, living in Drumright, Oklahoma.  It lists his contact person as "Mother Nattie Locke," living in Rogers, Texas.  Rogers is in Bell County.  I believe it says his occupation is "cleaner & presser," but I can not read the name of his employer, just that it was on Ohio Street in Drumright.

WWI Draft Card found in Creek County, OK, Draft Board 1
Ancestry.com
There is also a marriage record dated September 29, 1909 for Grover Locke and May N. Flora, both of Elk City, Beckham County, OK.  The age matches him, but not sure if it is him.  I believe the WWI draft card was him, so why would he put his mother down as closest relative, when he was married?  I guess it wouldn't be impossible if May died before the war, so who knows?  On the 1910 Federal Census, there is an entry for a "W D Lock and May Lock" living in Elk.  Their birthdates match, and it says they have been married one year.  But "W.D." would not be his initials.  However, it says on this census that W.D. Lock is a cleaner and presser working in tailoring. 

When my mom was a young girl, she remembers asking her grandmother if she had a brother.  Her grandmother said she did, but he died in the war.  From what I can find, there is no record of Grover Locke in World War I.  She doesn't remember if she meant he died in the war, or during the war.  I haven't been able to locate a death record either way.

If you have any questions, or concerns, about the information in this post, please leave me a comment. I'd be happy to answer any questions, or share what information I have on the individuals listed above. Thanks for reading!!





52 Ancestor's Challenge - Ida B. Haase, born 1868 in Prussia and died 1952 in Chicago, IL - Week 22

Ida B. Haase was my great, great grandmother on my father's side of the family.  According to her marriage certificate she was originally from "Gross Runow, H. Pommern."  I believe this was the small town of Gross Ruhnow, in the county of Stolp, in the old Prussian province of Hinterpommern (or Further Pommern in English).  At least that is what I was told when I questioned the place name on Ancestry.com's message boards. It is now known as Runowo, Poland.

Ida was born April 18, 1868, and was the daughter of Ludwig Haase and Justine Augusta Erdmann.  I believe her siblings were Adeline (b. 1860), Hulda (b. 1864), Augusta (b. 1870), Emma (b. 1871), Minnie (b. 1874), and Richard Ludwig (b. 1877).  The whole family came to the U.S. around 1878/1879.  There is a ship manifest for the Leipzig, found on
Ancestry.com, which arrived in Baltimore, Maryland on June 6, 1879.  It lists the entire household.  I only question it, because some of the children's ages were not written correctly, but the order and names are all the same.  The manifest states they were headed to Illinois, which is where they settled.

We can find the family in Chicago, IL in the 1880 Federal Census.  Everyone but Augusta is shown in the household.  Augusta may have passed away.

On May 10, 1890, Ida married John Martin Kutz in Chicago.  John was the son of Martin Kutz and Anna Draeger.  He was born in Chicago on June 18, 1861.  His parents were immigrants from Germany, just like Ida and her family, however they came to the U.S. in the late 1850s.
 
Ida with her children
Taken probably around 1896
Ida and John had 4 children: Elsie Justine (b. 1891) - she was my great-grandmother, Arthur Martin (b.1893), and twin daughters Emma Rose and Lillian Ruth (b. 1895).

The family stayed in the Chicago area.  According to the 1900 & 1910 Federal Censuses, they rented a house on Augusta Street.  By the 1920 Federal Census, they moved to 919 Washtenaw Avenue.  In 1930, they were living at 5017 Schubert Avenue.
 
The children of John and Ida Haase Kutz
Emma and Lillian (not sure who is who),
Arthur, and Elsie

On November 12, 1933, John Kutz passed away, and was buried at Concordia Cemetery in Chicago. Ida continued living at the house on Schubert with her son Arthur, who never married.  They are shown there on the 1940 Federal Census, along with Ida's daughter Lillian and Lillian's husband Ralph Hanson.

August 2, 1952, Ida passed away.  She was also buried at Concordia with her husband John.

Death certificate of Ida B. Haase Kutz
Ida with her grandson, Howard Arthur Glesener
and his daughter (her great-granddaughter), Judith Kathleen.
Probably taken around 1946.






















If you have any questions, or concerns, about the information in this post, please leave me a comment. I'd be happy to answer any questions, or share what information I have on the individuals listed above. Thanks for reading!!


***Just a quick note.  I meant to add this when I first wrote about Ida, but forgot.  Years ago when I first started researching my family, I came across an entry on Familysearch.org.  It showed a woman born in April 18, 1868 named Ida Bertha Haase and her parents, Ludwig Haase and Justine Erdmann.  It also stated she was Baptized in Schurow, Pommern, Prussia, on May 3, 1868.  I don't know where this information came from, but I do remember seeing it, and I made a note of it in my files.  I'm not sure if it was information added about them by another person, or if it was information from a record at one of the Latter Day Saints libraries.  I do have in my notes, that Schurow, Pommern, Prussia is now present day SkĊrowo, Koszalin, Poland.  Looking on Google maps, the two areas are very near each other.  Routing it, it is only 11 kilometers between the two towns.  Unfortunately, I can't verify this.  I am unable to locate the link online at this present time.